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Does anyone have a good video on Bulgarian SS form?

1:49

I never know how far to stand from the bench

Varelyn

@Leigh divine ran 10.29

how old is the guy again? (edited)

Like 6 7

Kind of need some help, so for like 2-3 months I have not been able to do curls because it feels like my wrist is about to pop and it just hurts a ton and it’s whatever weight I do, but If I curl with a neutral grip when I do hammer curls it’s nothing Just really annoying that I have had to use a cuff for curling when I do baysean curls, because the cuff just gives burn marks and grinds into my wrist/forearm

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Like 6 7

Brain rot generation

Leigh

how old is the guy again? (edited)

Almost 16

4:42

It’s honestly crazy

4:43

At that age I was running like 13

Varelyn

Almost 16

That's mad

4:55

I really hope he stays healthy for the future

Should i be walking 10k steps every gym session

4:58

Also does creatine or protein powder give you a strength boost before gym

4:58

Ive heard it has

Cold

Also does creatine or protein powder give you a strength boost before gym

No

Cold

Should i be walking 10k steps every gym session

And no

Oh

4:58

Wasnt planning on doing that anyways

4:58

Heh

I wanna get better at track (well XC) and I need tips. For the mile I run a 10.11 min and for the 300-400 m (idk honestly the measurement of my track but it laps a football field) is a 38 sec. Can anyone give me tips to improve as the szn goes on and into track (edited)

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I wanna get better at track (well XC) and I need tips. For the mile I run a 10.11 min and for the 300-400 m (idk honestly the measurement of my track but it laps a football field) is a 38 sec. Can anyone give me tips to improve as the szn goes on and into track (edited)

I’d suggest you read this that I made https://discord.com/channels/688710650507165697/1324029728381861898

Leigh

Brain rot generation

Just wait for Gen beta

mundy claims that the reason you your hams get sore asl after rdls is because the eccentric is often taken slow

16:46

kinda makes sense to me those things usually make me sore for 3ish days, should i try to rush the eccentric a bit

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mundy claims that the reason you your hams get sore asl after rdls is because the eccentric is often taken slow

More muscle damage occurs during eccentric movement (edited)

16:48

Why would you go out your way to speed up the eccentric to reduce soreness though?

16:48

Unless you’re doing it extremely slowly already

Leigh

Unless you’re doing it extremely slowly already

i am, usually my eccentrics take 2 or 3 seconds per rep as i was taught by form vids to feel the stretch on the hamstrings

16:50

i feel like i could do it a bit faster while still being safe and cause less muscle damage overall

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i feel like i could do it a bit faster while still being safe and cause less muscle damage overall

Up to you, the most important part is that you just control the weight down rather than doing a specific number of seconds down

Leigh

Up to you, the most important part is that you just control the weight down rather than doing a specific number of seconds down

The optimal eccentric is 5 parsecs

17:10

According to Mike Isratel at least

17:10

Or 5.73 seconds

Leigh

Up to you, the most important part is that you just control the weight down rather than doing a specific number of seconds down

Yeah i dont count, ive always been doing that tempo so it kinda stuck to me Im sure I can control it down quicker

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17:17

Thanks

I cant seem to lose lower belly fat

19:46

My upper abs show and I have definition on my serratus

19:47

But lower abs still nothing

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mundy claims that the reason you your hams get sore asl after rdls is because the eccentric is often taken slow

Did he say why?

MUJUMM

I cant seem to lose lower belly fat

It just takes time

Varelyn

Did he say why?

Idk how muscle soreness actually works

Varelyn

Idk how muscle soreness actually works

There’s no sure mechanism of it yet

21:40

But, muscle damage is a very likely factor/mechanism for it So he’s probably basing that off the fact eccentric motion causes more muscle damage than concentric motion (edited)

my friend has a really low hr, resting hr is around 45-52 and his max on a bike is 181 during badminton it's always around 150 he said he cycled 21 mins 9km he's 17yo what would this mean? (edited)

21:47

he never really runs or tracks anything. just plays badminton

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my friend has a really low hr, resting hr is around 45-52 and his max on a bike is 181 during badminton it's always around 150 he said he cycled 21 mins 9km he's 17yo what would this mean? (edited)

It doesn’t really mean anything

22:00

He’s just somewhat fit

22:00

21 mins for 9km on a bike isn’t fast by any means

Leigh

He’s just somewhat fit

Even though he doesn't do specific cardio

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

Even though he doesn't do specific cardio

He does though

22:01

Badminton classes as cardio

22:01

Cycling is cardio

Leigh

Badminton classes as cardio

I've been doing that for more and longer but i still see no improvement in my hr

Leigh

Cycling is cardio

He now does it for 4 weeks to a studentjob My point is, he does less cardio than me but has lower hr, idk why haha

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

I've been doing that for more and longer but i still see no improvement in my hr

Improvement in what HR

22:02

Your resting or your moving?

Both

Your resting hr means almost nothing

22:02

People can have low HR resting and be unfit

22:03

Also people can have much higher resting hr and be able to perform much better

22:03

It’s completely subjective

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

Both

If your moving HR isn’t improving then you’re getting no fitter

Leigh

It’s completely subjective

I see

Leigh

If your moving HR isn’t improving then you’re getting no fitter

During badminton it's hasn't really changed much

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

During badminton it's hasn't really changed much

Your average heart rate is what matters

22:05

It’s a bit hard to say if you’ve been improving or not if the intensity of your badminton rises over time anyway

On a 2 hour free play it's around 140-150, i haven't seen it change much

There’s probably a lot of things you’re not taking in consideration

Leigh

It’s a bit hard to say if you’ve been improving or not if the intensity of your badminton rises over time anyway

Yeah i get that

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

On a 2 hour free play it's around 140-150, i haven't seen it change much

Look 2 months back

22:06

Temperature is also going to effect it

I still find it weird, he said it was rpe10 for that cycling and his hr is 181, so low

It’s far too variable to make any strong conclusions

22:06

You have to know how to interpret data to know these things for sure

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

I still find it weird, he said it was rpe10 for that cycling and his hr is 181, so low

181 isn’t low

22:07

And cycling is completely different to running

22:08

Your HR won’t peak near as much from a cycle as it would from a run

22:08

You’re judging his hr based on your HR data

Ah i see

Leigh

You’re judging his hr based on your HR data

How do you know what is ‘high’ for him?

Leigh

You’re judging his hr based on your HR data

And also on RPE

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

And also on RPE

RPE 10 181 seems completely valid on a bike

22:09

It also depends on how he cycled it

22:09

lol

Leigh

RPE 10 181 seems completely valid on a bike

Didn't know, then i was wrong lol

Leigh

It also depends on how he cycled it

We've just been wondering it cuz during training i'm always at 180+ during an exercise and he's at 140 haha

If he did 7km at moderate intensity and the last 2km at RPE 10 his HR could've just not caught up

22:10

it's too varaible

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

We've just been wondering it cuz during training i'm always at 180+ during an exercise and he's at 140 haha

Yeah but you're a completely different person

22:11

Two people can have completely different max HR

22:11

It's a useless comparison you know

22:11

The relative intensity is a better comparison

Intensity is also high for him as he's laying on the ground after a hard exercise But, what does it mean if he's so tired but hr is 140? Or does it not mean anything?

(using your RPE if you don't know each others HR max)

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

Intensity is also high for him as he's laying on the ground after a hard exercise But, what does it mean if he's so tired but hr is 140? Or does it not mean anything?

It's relative

22:13

Its like this

22:13

One guy benches 60kg x 10 and another guy benches 80kg x 10 both at RPE 10

22:14

What he finds hard, you might find easy

22:14

When he finds easy, you might find hard

yes, but wouldn't you know who could bench 80kg x 10 on muscle, experience in the gym + time in the gym?

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

yes, but wouldn't you know who could bench 80kg x 10 on muscle, experience in the gym + time in the gym?

No

22:15

Some skinny guys bench a lot

22:16

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How much does she bench? @Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

well idk how long she has been in the gym

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

well idk how long she has been in the gym

Why does this matter?

22:17

There's many people who have lifted for a long time who are still not that strong relative to their time in the gym

22:18

similarly there are people who have been lifting for a short period of time and are strong

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

well idk how long she has been in the gym

5 years

22:18

You're making bad assumptions

it seems so lol

You can't tell how strong someone is by just looking at them nor how long they lifted for

22:19

You can't tell how fit someone is by looking at their resting HR

22:19

You can't tell how fit someone is by looking at their working HR

22:19

You have to know what their max is because its relative

so if he did like 6km RUN and the whole time giving it all (or doing a more accurate, expensive test) to measure max hr, then we would know more?

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

so if he did like 6km RUN and the whole time giving it all (or doing a more accurate, expensive test) to measure max hr, then we would know more?

yes

22:20

Because if his HR max is only 185 for example

22:21

then 140 for him would be 75% of his HR max

22:21

but if yours was 200

22:21

then its only 70%

and what could be the reason for a 185 max heart rate? genetics? if so it still doesn't mean anything?

and also, HR is not the most accurate tool to measure exercise intensity objectively, its pretty good and its very accessible, but blood lactate is probably best for determining that currently

Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋

and what could be the reason for a 185 max heart rate? genetics? if so it still doesn't mean anything?

It means nothing

22:23

It's controlled genetically, and it generally decreases with age

22:23

185 max is not even low

Leigh

185 max is not even low

yeah i was wrong, i just compared it to mine and yours so i thought it was low