Fitness 2025-10-17

My friend is going gym tomorrow for the first time

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So ive gotta teach him

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Form for all machines and stuff

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I feel like a gym unc lol

Don't tell him to go to failure on bench

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Don't tell him to go to failure on bench

yeah i wont

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd7ydDBH/

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Someone pls fact check this guy

Cold

yeah i wont

Tell him failure is the only intensity you should know

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Then get him to do a set to failure

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then walk away from the rack

Cold

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd7ydDBH/

Holy cringe

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Why's there a 10 year old kid doing tiktok videos lol

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Why do you watch this shit

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The video is sped up, can't even understand a word

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and, he's just screesnhotting chris beardsley instagram graphs

Leigh

then walk away from the rack

Also make sure to put like 225 on the bar

Leigh

Why do you watch this shit

I dont

pretending he knows what he's talking about

It just comes up

Cold

It just comes up

Exactly

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Who uses tiktok in the first place

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delete the app

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Cold

It just comes up

So it's in your feed so tiktok thinks you'll like it

its for low iq ppl

So

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He doesn’t know whats hes talking about

Cold

He doesn’t know whats hes talking about

no lol

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He's just waffling

LMAOO

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Tbf i thought the same shit

All of what he's saying came from Chris Beardsley posts

How would a young kid know all that

Which is exactly what half the teenagers on tiktok/instagram do

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They take what chris/Paul carter say as gospel

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and have an orgy together over it

Uhm

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Woah dude

It's true lol

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and its cringe

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That's why you should delete tiktok

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Or get a better fyp

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otherwise ur "cooked" lol

Cold

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd7ydDBH/

if ur getting content like this

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ur clearly watching other bs

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because its based on algorithms

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i.e. what u clicked and spent time watching in the past

Cold

It just comes up

so dont say this lol

Leigh

if ur getting content like this

Most of my content is gym related

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So its gonna give me gym stuff

Yeah ik but there are different sides to gym content

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Algorithms are very clever in that they will give content based on what you view the most, so for example if you tend to enjoy a certain type of content based on what you like, and spend most time watching it will show you more of that. I mean, in general a lot of the content on tiktok is trash regardless of where its coming from (from what I have seen), because its short form content and so it's aimed to grab attention and keep you engaged for that short period of time. That means the information has to be condensed down, and that usually leads to misinformation.

Leigh

Algorithms are very clever in that they will give content based on what you view the most, so for example if you tend to enjoy a certain type of content based on what you like, and spend most time watching it will show you more of that. I mean, in general a lot of the content on tiktok is trash regardless of where its coming from (from what I have seen), because its short form content and so it's aimed to grab attention and keep you engaged for that short period of time. That means the information has to be condensed down, and that usually leads to misinformation.

Mm

It's the same for instagram

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Youtube is a little bit better. But, you got to understand 90%+ of fitness industry is not there to educate people, but to make money.

I get that guys video once in a blue moon anyways

So you're doing yourself disservice to completely confuse urself over this type of content

Leigh

So you're doing yourself disservice to completely confuse urself over this type of content

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Being serious

Yeah

If you wanna make solid progress in the gym it aint gonna happen if u watch this crap on the daily

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It's just a waste of time

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and leads to fuckarounditis

Leigh

If you wanna make solid progress in the gym it aint gonna happen if u watch this crap on the daily

Dude its not like i actually listen to what he says

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I just follow my routine

Then watching it is irrelevant

I watch tiktok

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And it comes up

Cold

Dude its not like i actually listen to what he says

I'm not talking about this guy in general, just the general principle

Ig yea

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Btw

Cold

I just follow my routine

Good (edited)

Scapular winging happens because a weak muscle?

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Or is it just skinny

I'd say skinny

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I had a "winged" scapula when I was in my teens

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but as I gained weight it went

Leigh

I had a "winged" scapula when I was in my teens

So when people say they do exercises to remove it

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Theyre just chatting

Maybe in niche settings where it is actually caused by a weak muscle yeah. But, if someone is skinny and they have scapula winging more than often it is very likely due to being skinny than actually having a weak muscle.

Leigh

Maybe in niche settings where it is actually caused by a weak muscle yeah. But, if someone is skinny and they have scapula winging more than often it is very likely due to being skinny than actually having a weak muscle.

Whats actually considered skinny tho

Cold

Whats actually considered skinny tho

Looking "skinny"

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Would people consider you slim or skinny

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if yes, then you're skinny

Leigh

Looking "skinny"

Would you consider me skinny

Cold

Would you consider me skinny

To me at-least the word skinny implies someone is slim but on the extreme side, like it's an unhealthy slim. Whereas slim is just someone who looks lean, and hasn't got much mass on their frame. I'd call you slim rather than skinny personally.

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"Skinny" is also more harsh/offensive

Leigh

To me at-least the word skinny implies someone is slim but on the extreme side, like it's an unhealthy slim. Whereas slim is just someone who looks lean, and hasn't got much mass on their frame. I'd call you slim rather than skinny personally.

To gain weight

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Does it matter if you eat unhealthy calories

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Or would you need to eat actual good food

Bit of both

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If you really struggle to get in enough calories then a bit of both

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then over time adapt your diet to be healther, introduce and swap in healthier foods

Leigh

If you really struggle to get in enough calories then a bit of both

Honestly thats me rn

When i was trying to gain weight I used to make the mistake of trying to eat too clean, or I would eat foods too bland, the typical bb diet because back then that was what was on youtube and broadcasted to me as the best way to go about it as all the bodybuilders did that. But yeah, doesn't work

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Milk is really good

Yeah i have milk every day in morning

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Because it tastes freeh

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Fresh

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And nice

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I get my milk from a milk farm

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So its the good stuff

Higher fat meats

Leigh

If you really struggle to get in enough calories then a bit of both

I might be struggling to gain weight bc i play sports every day at school

17 Yeah Buddy.... Ain't nuttin' to it, but ta do it @Cold !

Like chicken thigh instead of chicken breast

So maybe im losing calories

Leigh

Like chicken thigh instead of chicken breast

Chicken breast tastes way better though

Higher fat beef mince, like 10-20% instead of 5%

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Olive oil over rice

Turkey is high fat

Salmon

Right

mackerel

Cold

Turkey is high fat

Lean

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but depends what part of the turkey u eat

Oh

Every animal stores fat some places more than others

Leigh

but depends what part of the turkey u eat

I barely eat turkey anyways

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I regret not taking a picture of myself when i first started gym

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I dont know if ive made progress or not

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I prob have

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But idk by how much

You could measure your arms and chest circumference as a way of objectively tracking your gains

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But, make sure you measure in the same part each time

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and not one time after pump and one time after uve just woken up

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keep consistent with when and how u measure

But a good way to know if ive made progress or not is if im stronger rihht

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Right

ye

Ive gotten a lott stronger than before

Leigh

ye

Btw what causes a pump

blood flow

Wym tho

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Like whats the difference blood is flowing anyways

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But you dont have a pump 24/7

When you train the muscle requires fuel, oxygen, and it produces metabolites, which causes an increase in blood flow

Ahh

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But when your warm

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You also get pump

Warmth causes vasodilation

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Vasodilation (dilation of blood vessel)

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meaning more blood can flow through that vessel

Mmm

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Your smart asl

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Does Pe help with becoming a doctor

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Or surgeon

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Since you learn about the body

Cold

Does Pe help with becoming a doctor

Might help assist your knowledge

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It's not a bad thing to pair up with it

Hm okay

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Helpful

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Thanks

Leigh

Might help assist your knowledge

Sorry ive got one more question lol

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How has someone like jacksfitness been training for 2 years and hes still hasnt grown much

Arent you bound to grow even a bit even if your diet is bad

For him, it's hard to know what he actually does consistently on a day to day basis. He shows what he does, but is he doing it everyday, I really doubt it and thats probably why. He's just not consistent I think. Genuinely, he's obviously not good at building muscle genetically, but a lot of it I think is purely down to inconsistency and fucking around too much. He also makes a lot of money and gets clout for who he is and what he does, so he probably cba to get bigger too. Look at how he trains when he's in the gym you can tell he doesn't want to be there just by looking at him, he barely trains hard. 100% doesn't eat enough or he'd be gaining size, and he's gained no size. So for him, lack of consistency with the fundamentals - training hard enough, eating enough food

Leigh

Olive oil over rice

depending on the dish there are a few oils that may taste beter

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sesame oil is really really nice with most asian dishes

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olive oil on most rice dishes clases the flavours

Leigh

For him, it's hard to know what he actually does consistently on a day to day basis. He shows what he does, but is he doing it everyday, I really doubt it and thats probably why. He's just not consistent I think. Genuinely, he's obviously not good at building muscle genetically, but a lot of it I think is purely down to inconsistency and fucking around too much. He also makes a lot of money and gets clout for who he is and what he does, so he probably cba to get bigger too. Look at how he trains when he's in the gym you can tell he doesn't want to be there just by looking at him, he barely trains hard. 100% doesn't eat enough or he'd be gaining size, and he's gained no size. So for him, lack of consistency with the fundamentals - training hard enough, eating enough food

Yeahh

Clemens

olive oil on most rice dishes clases the flavours

Yeah, I wasn't talking for optimal taste. Just getting the calories in

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Worked for me

Thats what ive been thinking too

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He just doesnt train well

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And he prob skips gym

I think even if he ate more food and trained the same he'd make decent progress

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Has his weight gone up much in past 2 years?

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i think a few kilos right?

Hes gained weight

But, bearing in mind he's actually "skinny"

But nothing crazy

so a few kilos is not enough

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he needs like

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20kg

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at-least

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Leigh

Yeah, I wasn't talking for optimal taste. Just getting the calories in

reminds me of that guy who drank a liter of olive oil

Cold

And he prob skips gym

100%

And apparently people are saying hes been on mk677

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He’s admitted it before

oh yeh

On a live or a video

I reckon he does that for views potentially

Leigh

oh yeh

What does m677 actually do

Is it the same as testosterone

@Leigh have you looked into any of this https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5371618/ (edited)

Minimizing Injury and Maximizing Return to Play: Lessons from Engin...

Musculoskeletal injuries account for more than 70% of time away from sports. One of the reasons for the high number of injuries and long return to play is that we have only a very basic understanding of how our training alters tendon and ligament ...

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I’ve been trying the 10min no hang protocol and I gotta say it’s feeling great (edited)

Cold

What does m677 actually do

It basically assists you with producing more GH, but thing is it's probably not that potent enough to actually do anything much compared to obviously taking GH.

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I reckon most of it is placebo

Leigh

It basically assists you with producing more GH, but thing is it's probably not that potent enough to actually do anything much compared to obviously taking GH.

Is that growth hormones

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If Im not mistaken

Leigh

I reckon most of it is placebo

Its got side effects aswell right

Cold

Is that growth hormones

ye

Cold

Its got side effects aswell right

Yeah

Zero

@Leigh have you looked into any of this https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5371618/ (edited)

Nah I haven't

Leigh

Yeah

Oh okay

Leigh

ye

I learned about it in a sub lesson a few weeks baco

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Back

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Not learnt about it

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I just got told what it is and stuff like that

Zero

I’ve been trying the 10min no hang protocol and I gotta say it’s feeling great (edited)

What is the no hang protocol?

Cold

I just got told what it is and stuff like that

Rlly? They teach you about mk-677 in school?

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oh you mean like a supply teacher came in?

Leigh

oh you mean like a supply teacher came in?

Yeah

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Cold

Yeah

gym goer supply teacher

Me and my friends asked him if he does anything else

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He says he teaches pe in a different school

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And we were just having a convo for the whole time

My sports nutrition lecturer used to talk to me about lifting quite a bit

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It's nice to have a teacher that u can relate to outside of the teaching envrionment

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we used to talk about layne norton's videos all the time

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and he'd bring them up in lectures

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always talking about gear too

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this guy was a lecturer at my uni too

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think he did a study on german volume training

Leigh

It's nice to have a teacher that u can relate to outside of the teaching envrionment

Yeaa

Leigh

What is the no hang protocol?

So you allocate 10 mins a day to just doing no hangs (feet still in the ground) and you do that for roughly 10 mins, 10s on, 20s off (repeat 21 times) Then rest for 6 hours. You don’t have to hang though, all you need to do is load the part of the body you want to help strengthen - tendon-wise - submaximally and without any fatigue for this same period twice or three times a day. If you suss the study - it shows that after 10 mins the sinews they tested stopped reacting to stimulus after 10 mins and then needed 6 hours to rest before they would react to more stimulus to growth This should also be combined with taking collagen 45 mins (or gelatine 60min) + vitamin c prior to your 10 min workout to maximise collagen synthesis (up to 2x greater synthesis) which is referenced in a different study (reference 48 I think or 46) All of this is to say that your tendon health gets much, much better. (Apparently) (edited)

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I’ve been doing it for a week while also doing grip training every second day along side my main 2hr sessions and my right hands sprain has gone almost completely within 4 days of doing it (edited)

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So I’ll report back after a month of doing it

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But so far I’m really happy with it - was just wondering if you had looked into it

Does gooning help gains?

LocalDrugDealer

Does gooning help gains?

I think it lowers test so I wouldn't before a workout (edited)

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Can help sleep though in that regard

9:00

In my experience.

Night

I think it lowers test so I wouldn't before a workout (edited)

yeah but like it's only for like an hour or two fr

LocalDrugDealer

yeah but like it's only for like an hour or two fr

Yeah you'll just have to time it right if u do

9:01

I wouldn't then go immediately workout

Night

I wouldn't then go immediately workout

gonna goon all day and then hit a lift fr

5 Yeah Buddy.... Ain't nuttin' to it, but ta do it @LocalDrugDealer !

LocalDrugDealer

gonna goon all day and then hit a lift fr

Wash ur hands thoroughly before you go to the gym lol

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Got my workout time down to an hour, cut my rest time down a lot. Lol

where can I post for some fit recommendations?

LocalDrugDealer

where can I post for some fit recommendations?

Fit as in clothes? Off topic i suppose

Zero

So you allocate 10 mins a day to just doing no hangs (feet still in the ground) and you do that for roughly 10 mins, 10s on, 20s off (repeat 21 times) Then rest for 6 hours. You don’t have to hang though, all you need to do is load the part of the body you want to help strengthen - tendon-wise - submaximally and without any fatigue for this same period twice or three times a day. If you suss the study - it shows that after 10 mins the sinews they tested stopped reacting to stimulus after 10 mins and then needed 6 hours to rest before they would react to more stimulus to growth This should also be combined with taking collagen 45 mins (or gelatine 60min) + vitamin c prior to your 10 min workout to maximise collagen synthesis (up to 2x greater synthesis) which is referenced in a different study (reference 48 I think or 46) All of this is to say that your tendon health gets much, much better. (Apparently) (edited)

Oh interesting

Leigh

Oh interesting

I’m starting to layer in other stretches between the main ones just to see if I can get some added value in. As well as hands I’m doing some legs and working on my wrists, as well as applying a magnesium moisturiser at night on my lower arms. One this I did change with the no hangs, because I’m interested in doing muscle ups - I do 6 10s holds with a false grip, the first few days it felt really bad but it’s actually starting to feel like I have some power in the grip now which feels counterintuitive because I’ve done no false grip work at all with actual pulls