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If I train in the morning with empty stomach, how fast do I need to eat after my workout?
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Bzz
If I train in the morning with empty stomach, how fast do I need to eat after my workout?
Depends on how hungry you are
13:37
For me, preferably quickly
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But does it matter if I am not that hungry and wait 1 hour?
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not persee
13:38
the fact that you trained will make the bulk of the difference
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Weirdly i have my best workouts on empty stomach
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But if you have less energy for your workout it may be a bit harder
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so eating something is generally smart
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Bzz
Weirdly i have my best workouts on empty stomach
some people do find that
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I think because i sleep bad and get tired during the day
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And I feel so much better after workout in the morning
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Just dont want to miss out of gains
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makes sense, waked you up properly
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I think ultimatly the miss out on gains is neglectable
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If you do proper workout
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and have a good diet in the rest of the day
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5 meals a day
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Personally I always eat something before, and not after
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Yee, we are all different
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If I eat before I wanna throw up
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Tested different timings
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You could experiment a bit more with it, see what works for you
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But having a feeling of wanting to throw up is obvously not great long term
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I like to eat a few hours before my workout
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or have a smaller sized meal
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The thing that will make you grow ultimatly is having good workouts
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and good kcals, macros first and foremost
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meal timing is less important
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Altho eating something a few hours before or quickly after is usually smart
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I also eat fairly big meal with carbs, fat and protein before bed
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some people will get issues with their sleep if they do that
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I personally don't eat something 4-5h before I go to sleep
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Yea, I sleep better
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you could try a few things, see what works beter. be consistant at it before making a conclusion
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But if this works for you it's fine
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just make sure you get good workouts in, that you progress with your goals
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if you don't you could look at it again
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I am so low bodyfat, hence bad sleep
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That's something I would look at first than
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sleep is quite important
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Yepp, trying to bulk atm
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Bzz
Yepp, trying to bulk atm
that seems like an obvious step foreward in this case
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are you able to bulk up properly?
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Its a bit of struggle
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can't get enough kcals in?
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I have some health issues. If you want more information we can take in pm
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I prefer to keep things in the server if you dont mind 😄
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But if you don't want to share that's fine
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Ye, maybe will do later today 🙂 Finishing up on gym atm and writing on phone is not the best haha
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sure!
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enjoy your workout
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❤️
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 19:52
What rir zones do you guys recommend on leg based compounds?
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Will 7/8 be good enough for those?
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:00
Rpe 5-6 is like the lowest end u want to start at
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Then slowly add .5rpe
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So like 4-5 rir
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But then you’d up it to a higher point where u can still do it to whatever ur rep/set is
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dr.Smoko fake PhD
But then you’d up it to a higher point where u can still do it to whatever ur rep/set is
sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:02
Yeah i was asking for that higher point cap I was doing rpe 9, 9.5 for 4 sets on squats last session and rest of my workout went dogshit
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I think i was just too fatigued by that point
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If i say, stuck to rpe 8 would that be good enough?
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:03
If ur wanting that many sets for that high a rpe I’d go 8 or 8.5
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Especially if ur having fatigue issues
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Or try to maybe deload and try again
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See if it’s just ur cns
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sadisticspagett
If i say, stuck to rpe 8 would that be good enough?
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:04
What I do is a rpe 9.5 for 1 but the end of the 4/5 sets
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Like go rpe 8 for 5 8.5 for 4 etc
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So ur getting some strength but not much fatigue
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dr.Smoko fake PhD
What I do is a rpe 9.5 for 1 but the end of the 4/5 sets
sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:06
Oh so you ascend up in intensity? Like working up to a 9.5 rpe set by 6, 7, 8, 9, 9.5 etc
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Or just keep sets 1-4 rpe 8, and do set 5 at 9.5
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:06
U can do it that way
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I do 8 8.5 9 9.5 for 4 or two 8s then the same
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Reps of 5,4,3,1
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:07
Gotcha
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:07
Just slowly adding the intensity
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:10
Alright then, based off what you said i could try ascending from rpe 7, to 9 in this workout and see how that feels
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Maybe try keeping a consistent rpe 8 for the next workout and compare the both
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Thanks dude
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sadisticspagett
Maybe try keeping a consistent rpe 8 for the next workout and compare the both
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:12
Honestly 7.5-8 is usually a good zone for most things (edited)
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If ur trying to hit a pr obviously up it
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:14
Totally makes sense
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I wanted to build more mass so im doing more sets
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sadisticspagett
I wanted to build more mass so im doing more sets
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:17
My old program I did do 5x5 for a few week around 80%
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So like 7.5-8.5 range
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Then do the 8-9.5 build up sets
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:17
Also on another note Im shit at gauging rpe/rir xd Im used to maxing out all the time for reps for accessories so it doesnt come naturally to me
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:17
The second phase
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So I get mass and strength
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:17
Ye im doing 4x5
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:18
U can hit rpe 8 then easy each session
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:19
Also ive reasoned that if I stuck to a weight And did the same weight every set my rpe would ascend
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:20
If ur stuck on the same 1rm
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Do say 80/85% for ur rep sets
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Slowly get to say 95% if that feels right u know u probs have the 1rm
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If not go back down to 80 and work up again
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:21
Over a block right?
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:21
Ur going to hit the weight and break past or least get some mass/ strength out of it
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sadisticspagett
Over a block right?
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:21
Yeah I do blocks of 3/4
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:21
3 building 4 strength?
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:22
Usually just two blocks plus the block of sbd then the pr
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sadisticspagett
3 building 4 strength?
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:22
3 or 4
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:22
Gotcha
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:22
Depends how many weeks u want
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My current is 3 blocks of 3 so 9 weeks
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 20:22
Seems like a fun way to train ngl
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 20:23
But I’m going to do 4 week blocks but with 2 deload and a pr week
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So 15 weeks totals
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But this bitch is built for punishment
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Ã̶̅n̴̊͑k̴̾͌s̵̒̐e̵͗̒l̴̿͋ 2025/9/12 21:44
Just did 40 min stairmaster lol
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 23:15
@dr.Smoko fake PhD hit a squat top set at 8.5 and took 7 for the other 4 sets
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I was able to get through rest of the workout easy and hit tons of prs
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I was able to get through rest of the workout easy and hit tons of prs
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 23:18
Lot better then
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U could try adding the other sets up a bit till u can do 8.5 for them all
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So do 8.5 then 7.5 for the rest
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Then 8 then 8.5 all 5
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 23:20
Okey ill progress intensity
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8 for 4 sets should be a sustainable intensity right?
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I don't plan on deloads anytime soon
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 23:20
Yeah
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You won’t have to deload
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Just if u get more gassed out
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 23:20
Sounds great ill do that
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dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/12 23:20
Just lower it by .5
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Just keep it in that goldilocks zone
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/12 23:22
Gotcha
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