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Y'all think my strength will be the same for my legs when I get back into it next week after I skipped legs this whole week
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Y'all think my strength will be the same for my legs when I get back into it next week after I skipped legs this whole week
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/15 0:44
A week is nothing
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Tiny about extra fatigue
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But it’s basic benign
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I just been so distracted. I'll show up to the gym last two days to hit legs and I just ended up doing a hour walk on the treadmill lol I gotta lock in next week (edited)
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Y'all think my strength will be the same for my legs when I get back into it next week after I skipped legs this whole week
For me i usually lose a little strength especially in my squat if I haven't trained it for a week, but everyones a bit different
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:04
Leigh what do you squat
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700 I bet
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i believe he does 150 kgs easily (edited)
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sadisticspagett
700 I bet
Nah only 440
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:06
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working the hernia today
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Leigh
Nah only 440
Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:06
400g less than me
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Evil_🦇
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Well
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I do 200 x 2.2
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Leigh
Nah only 440
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:07
You dont squat much?
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sadisticspagett
You dont squat much?
Wdym?
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sadisticspagett
You dont squat much?
so 440 is beginner lvl?
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Leigh
Wdym?
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:08
As in do you not squat too frequently or not focused on it for strength outcomes
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sadisticspagett
As in do you not squat too frequently or not focused on it for strength outcomes
Neither
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I squat twice a week and I do focus on strength outcomes (edited)
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Just never been good at squat compared to my other lifts
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I mean 200kg squat is not bad, it’s just not good either
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:09
Probably the 6'5 thing
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:09
i removed all free weight movements now tbh, just bodybuilding until im lean and sexy
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sadisticspagett
Probably the 6'5 thing
Well, maybe that’s a factor idk
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Leigh
I mean 200kg squat is not bad, it’s just not good either
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:09
Oh yeah its an advanced level squat for sure
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sadisticspagett
Oh yeah its an advanced level squat for sure
Not at my weight I don’t think
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It’s like late intermediate
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sadisticspagett
Probably the 6'5 thing
Have you seen the video that will Tennyson made?
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Where he wore these shoes to put him at like 6’6
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He went gym in them
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:12
Lmao no, let me check it out sounds fun
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thumbnail is wrong
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he claims it makes him 6'6 in the video
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since he's 6'0 and the shoes are 6 inches
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but yeah watch the full video is pretty good
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guys, what are your top 3 fitness influencers on social media? (edited)
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Leigh
but yeah watch the full video is pretty good
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:15
Yep watching rn.
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alvaro
guys, what are your top 3 fitness influencers on social media? (edited)
Eddie Hall my fav
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Leigh
Eddie Hall my fav
beast fr
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:16
chris beardsley, yotalks, cooper logan
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alvaro
guys, what are your top 3 fitness influencers on social media? (edited)
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:17
I like tnf Paul carter and yotalks (for shits and giggles)
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Evil_🦇
chris beardsley, yotalks, cooper logan
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:17
Beardsley? Why all he does he post mechanistic graphs
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sadisticspagett
I like tnf Paul carter and yotalks (for shits and giggles)
I saw many people like tnf
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Explains a lot for the both of you (edited)
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I mean Chris is alright, but he's not as science based as he thinks he is
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Leigh
Explains a lot for the both of you (edited)
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:18
Did you just insult Paul carter? Blocked!!
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A lot of biases in the graphs he shares (edited)
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he cherry picks a lot of data
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:18
I dont find enjoyment in looking at graphs tbh I think yo talks is funny as fuck ironically And Paul carter has good information imo (edited)
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sadisticspagett
Did you just insult Paul carter? Blocked!!
I commented on one of his posts and he got upset
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literally came into my dms raging
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Because i called him out
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:19
No way
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What did you disagree on
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He also pinned my comment
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i dont even remember lol
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:19
Ah now im curious what post
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He blocked me so i cant see
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idk all these social media guys are just tards
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Leigh
He blocked me so i cant see
do you have tiktok leigh?
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Arcane BOT 2025/9/15 1:20
4 Yeah Buddy.... Ain't nuttin' to it, but ta do it @alvaro!
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they are misleading you all lol
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alvaro
do you have tiktok leigh?
I have an account but haven't used it in years
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Leigh
I have an account but haven't used it in years
oh okay
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Social media is kinda cringe
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Leigh
they are misleading you all lol
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:21
I agree but its also why I think if you arent a tard yourself its possible to pick out good information and bad
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I think the volume recommendations these guys spit out is super cringe
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sadisticspagett
I agree but its also why I think if you arent a tard yourself its possible to pick out good information and bad
Most people aren't very aware
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:21
In what world can someone not recover from more than 6 hard sets a week...lol
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99% of people just get misled by social media content
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i did the keenan flap at my gym and i was so embarassed i fell for tiktok trends
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:22
lol
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and the worst part i felt nothing
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:22
Thats crazy bro Youd never find me bdsm based lifting at my gym
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id rather do lat pulldowns on a nautilus
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alvaro
i did the keenan flap at my gym and i was so embarassed i fell for tiktok trends
It's all good
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you gotta make mistakes to learn
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:23
What do you think about mundy/ carter etc volume recommendations
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sadisticspagett
I think the volume recommendations these guys spit out is super cringe
the constant debate on what is best is cringy
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What do you think about mundy/ carter etc volume recommendations
Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:23
what are they
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:23
2 to 3 sets 2 to 3 times a week at 1 rir
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sadisticspagett
2 to 3 sets 2 to 3 times a week at 1 rir
Would work for some people for sure
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:24
So volume equated, 6 weekly sets basically Upto you to split it 2x or 3x
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Especially beginners
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Arcane BOT 2025/9/15 1:24
27 Yeah Buddy.... Ain't nuttin' to it, but ta do it @sadisticspagett!
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Just depends how you respond to volume
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:25
this is my program, thinking of doing upper 3x a week instead 2
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guys what splits are yall using and whats the best one for beginners? (edited)
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Evil_🦇
this is my program, thinking of doing upper 3x a week instead 2
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:26
Is this a tricep dip?
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:26
normal dip
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:26
Cool cool
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alvaro
guys what splits are yall using and whats the best one for beginners? (edited)
Is that a serious question? can't tell if you're messing or not
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Leigh
Especially beginners
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:27
This is what they universally recommend for 99% of people tho xd which is what I have an issue with
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Leigh
Is that a serious question? can't tell if you're messing or not
yes just asking, im going on by a ppl, and i think this is arguably the best one even for begginers or intermediate. tried the upper lower rest but meh (edited)
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:28
There is no bad split but I wouldnt recommend PPL for noobs
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been my split for half a year, feels the best to me but im not hitting legs twice a week lol
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:29
So ppl pp?
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yea lol
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:29
Meh
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I mean fair enough its upto you Legs are half of your body so I dont see why you wouldnt train them equally as upper body I think as a beginner maximising your ffmi needs to be your main priority over aesthetic specialisation Hiting Legs 1x isnt doing that well
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yes just asking, im going on by a ppl, and i think this is arguably the best one even for begginers or intermediate. tried the upper lower rest but meh (edited)
What's the best split for you depends on how frequently you are able to train on a consistent basis. If you live a busy life and find it hard to be in the gym 5-6x per week PPL is probably not a good idea, and instead upper lower or full body. A benefit to higher frequency splits like full body is the amount of practice you can get into your main lifts like squat bench and deadlift, which can be good to get proficient at those lifts as a beginner. At the end of the day it depends on what you find most enjoyable, and how much time you have to go gym per week. The difference in terms of results is pretty minimal
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I mean fair enough its upto you Legs are half of your body so I dont see why you wouldnt train them equally as upper body I think as a beginner maximising your ffmi needs to be your main priority over aesthetic specialisation Hiting Legs 1x isnt doing that well
yeah but as leigh said, im not able to train consistently, no matter how much i try to. thats why ill change to u/l/r and repeat... (edited)
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:32
What does your avg leg day look like
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I've noticed a lot of people start off with PPL
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:33
If its a shit show with way too much volume it makes sense why you would skip the second day
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I started with PPL too
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:33
Me too xd I blame athlean X dude
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:34
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I think it works well with beginner psychology because the whole training experience is new and u kinda feel really motivated to go all the time, and going only 3-4x per week feels a bit weird
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What's the best split for you depends on how frequently you are able to train on a consistent basis. If you live a busy life and find it hard to be in the gym 5-6x per week PPL is probably not a good idea, and instead upper lower or full body. A benefit to higher frequency splits like full body is the amount of practice you can get into your main lifts like squat bench and deadlift, which can be good to get proficient at those lifts as a beginner. At the end of the day it depends on what you find most enjoyable, and how much time you have to go gym per week. The difference in terms of results is pretty minimal
thanks very much, ill change it but not gonna lie, dont know how to introduce so many groups in a day
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 1:34
you dont need to know there are programs out there u can just follow
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:36
Best program is one you enjoy + squats and rdls
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Fuck squats and rdls
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 1:37
Speaking of I need advice for rdls
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I can load those pretty heavy but when I do i always fuck my lower back up
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In comparison when I load them lighter I can feel my hamstrings better
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I shouls just take a weight cut and start building the movement from ground up again. Focusing on better bracing and all anyone's got a good form vid for rdl bracing? (edited)
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those are so complicated i quit doing em
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my back cant stay straight when i bend
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sadisticspagett
In comparison when I load them lighter I can feel my hamstrings better
Same bro. I like to focus on form with RDLs. Depth is pretty important for whether or not I feel it in my hamstrings and how much I am pushing my hips back. So I’d say keep it at a weight you can handle good form and execution with and then add load when you can
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 2:08
Thanks dude Will do that on Tuesday, no point in forcing load ig
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I can do 110kgs for 7 or 8 but I can only feel it good if I drop to 95 and do it for sets of 10ish (edited)
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Bro ive gotten so strong 2 weeks and a bit into the gym
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Im able to do reps of 50 kg bench
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And i can bicep curl 20kg 8 reps on the cable machine
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Leigh
For me i usually lose a little strength especially in my squat if I haven't trained it for a week, but everyones a bit different
I see. I just wasn't sure if I should push myself the same as if I never skipped or not
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Im able to do reps of 50 kg bench
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:17
Nice!!
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Keep going you'll only get way stronger
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Keep going you'll only get way stronger
yess
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:18
Leigh about excerise variation In a single workout is it worth having 2 excerises for 4 total sets for a muscle group? Like i could be doing 4 sets of chest, and options are either 4 sets of db press or 2 sets of db press and 2 sets of flys
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Would it be any less beneficial than say splitting it up
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sadisticspagett
Would it be any less beneficial than say splitting it up
Really depends on what the function of the muscle is that you’re training
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And if the two exercises that you pick make sense for those functions
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Personally I wouldn’t do a fly & a press
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I’d just do a flat and higher incline press
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Since a flat press is pretty much doing the same thing as a fly is doing but emphasised
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But, if you really enjoyed doing both fly and flat press that’s also fine
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Instead of 4 sets of bench for example
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Leigh
Since a flat press is pretty much doing the same thing as a fly is doing but emphasised
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:36
That is very fair, humerus path is the same in both
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That makes sense
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So for stuff like lats
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Horizontal pull and vertical pull
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:37
It would make sense to have shoulder extension based movement and an adduction movement
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It would make sense to have shoulder extension based movement and an adduction movement
Yeah you can do that too
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I usually have vertical and horizontal pull
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In same exercise
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:38
Gotcha Valuable information
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Then, a different grip pull on the other
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So like narrow versus wide
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 3:39
Sample could be something like 1. db rows neutral grip and wide grip pulldowns on one day 2. T bar rows with pronated grip and cg pulldown the other day
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AFAIK should be a good coverage of all
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Going off of muscles function is something I never realised tbh, thanks
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Ragebait drives me mad
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Guess im becoming old now
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sadisticspagett
Guess im becoming old now
Yep
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Ragebait drives me mad
dr.Smoko fake PhD 2025/9/15 4:59
Always the smallest kid saying stuff like that too
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 5:02
But he's not wrong either Its like if you zoom into the uk, London is very different from Birmingham If you zoom out for a while, they're just 2 different spots on world map in the general UK direction
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Hes focusing on the minors so much its crazy
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Im certain going from a press to like a fly only gives you 5%, if that, amount of additional chest stim. (This is even then offset by the stimulus you get for tricep and shoulders)
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 5:29
@Leigh did u you see mike israetel do a fitness test?
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his 800m time was 5:30
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 5:37
For someone his size who claims to do 0 cardio thats not bad
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Sub 7 min kilometre?
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Evil_🦇 2025/9/15 5:39
thats incredible bad
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 5:43
😭
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I mean he's largely untrained so
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is it good to go till failure for every workout
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Evil_🦇
his 800m time was 5:30
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11 minute mile pace
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That's like tip toe jog pace
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sadisticspagett
I mean he's largely untrained so
yeah considering his weight & his training status its not too surprising
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Leigh
yeah considering his weight & his training status its not too surprising
Bought some earphones rn
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For the gym
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We gon find out if its good
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It was 10 pounds
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Hopefully it doesnt break on my first use
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I used to take earpods and I always used to leave them in the gym
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cus they're so small
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you forget about them
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When you place ur phone down
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Just put the earphones on top
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And they fall out ur ears when ur lifting
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Cold
Just put the earphones on top
nah i used to use them mid set
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Cold
When you place ur phone down
Am i only one who do this
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cus they're bluetooth
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sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 6:45
Would 40kgs to squat be a good goal in the next 12 months 😩 is it even realistic
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i chuck my phone on the floor too
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Yeah like put the case
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Says its coming 17-22
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Hopefully it comes 17th
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Leigh
i chuck my phone on the floor too
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 6:45
I use an android bro that shit would shatter instantly if I did this
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I missplace my earbuds around the gym all the time
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sadisticspagett
I missplace my earbuds around the gym all the time
its really annoying
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Leigh
its really annoying
sadisticspagett 2025/9/15 6:50
My gyms entertainment system is largely controlled by the members so most of the time you can adjust songs / shut it off even no one gaf
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And i prefer lifting without music ill be honest
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hows the form
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There is a channel for these questions
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#✅・form-check
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Leigh
I used to take earpods and I always used to leave them in the gym
That's y I started to use ones with a hook I can wrap around my ear
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